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    CS:GO Survey Results – Part 3/3

    Jack "Westerman" Westerman on Tue, 08/07/2012 10:13AM



    Back in June, we asked you all to fill in our Big Fat CS:GO Survey – a delightfully detailed questionnaire on anything and everything relating to Counter-Strike: Global Offensive. We wanted to know about your Counter-Strike history, the time you’ve spent on the beta, what your very first impression was and how your opinion has changed, whether you like the new grenades, dislike the new maps, whether you run too quickly or jump too slowly, and tons and tons of other stuff.

    Overall, 1,834 people filled in our survey, and it reached out to Counter-Strike fans on a global scale, being completed by readers from ESEA, Reddit, HLTV, Cadred, Readmore, Rakaka, SK Gaming, Fragbite, ESReality, ESL and GotGames, amongst many, many others.

    We’ve spent the last few weeks breaking down the results, and we’ve finally reached the third and final article in the series! A couple of weeks ago, we took a closer look at the Counter-Strike history of respondents, how their opinion of the beta had changed over time, and what they thought about the basic gameplay of Global Offensive. Last week, we looked at detailed gameplay mechanics, paying particular attention to the maps, guns and models of CS:GO. And today, we’ll be rounding it all off by looking forward, trying to guess what the future of our game holds.

    Once again, use the links below to start checking out the data. Have fun, and thanks again for all your help! :-)




    So there you go. We kept this section short and sweet, but what does it show us? As the final chart explains, the vast majority of Counter-Strike players would like Global Offensive to be the next big thing, but they're unsure as to whether or not it actually will be. Much like my relationship with Emma Watson... we can only hope.



    This section was the biggie... tackling the all-important "future of Counter-Strike" dilemma that has been resting uneasily at the front of people's minds for the last year or so. While most people will make the move to CS:GO when it is released, and strongly believe that it will NOT be a flop, they also don't think it capable of surpassing the strong competitive scene that Counter-Strike 1.6 possessed in it's prime. Most respondents do someday see Counter-Strike reclaiming it's throne as the international king of eSports titles... just not with Global Offensive.



    So there you have it! Finished, fini, finito! Over the last few weeks we've broken down one of the largest Counter-Strike surveys ever conducted, and now have a much clearer view of how the community really feels about Global Offensive.

    But this is where the talking ends. We've analysed, argued, debated and discussed for almost a year since CS:GO was first announced, and the retail release now sits just around the corner. For the first time in seven years, it's time to get started on a brand new version of Counter-Strike, and it couldn't be better timing. Have fun, and thanks for all your help!
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     / · 8.7.12 at 10:23am #1 JNA
    pretty bad ass
     / · 8.7.12 at 10:36am #2 spanKie
    Hope it does turn out as big as 1.6. Never know
     / · 8.7.12 at 11:28am #3 SJB
    CSGO will never top what 1.6 once was, as it is a Source remake, and we saw what happened with that. make a game worthy of uniting the Counter-strike communities and show we can beat both SC2 and that terrible LoL game.
     / · 8.7.12 at 11:51am #4 baR-
    yerrrppp
     / · 8.7.12 at 12:01pm #5 Ignignokt
    .

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     / · 8.7.12 at 3:07pm #6 sophos
    The only thing I hate about CS:GO is the inability to wall.



    Otherwise, I think its a good game and will overthrow.


    This is like DOTA vs DOTA 2.
     / · 8.7.12 at 3:22pm #7 Judge_Dredd
    Referenced post #2 by spanKie
    Hope it does turn out as big as 1.6. Never know :p
    #2
    it wont. most 1.6 players do not like it at all. and a decent amount of source players dont like it either.
     / · 8.7.12 at 3:23pm #8 vaz
    mmmmm interesting
     / · 8.7.12 at 3:28pm #9 LND
    Referenced post #2 by spanKie
    Hope it does turn out as big as 1.6. Never know :p
    #2 with mlg around some cool things could happen
     / · 8.7.12 at 3:34pm #10 onebeat
    as long as its better than source. idc
     / · 8.7.12 at 3:41pm #11 fisher
    Referenced post #3 by SJB
    CSGO will never top what 1.6 once was, as it is a Source remake, and we saw what happened with that. make a game worthy of uniting the Counter-strike communities and show we can beat both SC2 and... that terrible LoL game.Read More
    #3
     / · 8.7.12 at 4:37pm #12 TERDFERGUSON
    It'll be hard to recreate the magic that was 1.6, but if Valve can put the investment of time and money into their new game, who knows what could happen in the future. For the sake of Counterstrike, I hope that it gets even bigger.
     / · 8.7.12 at 5:01pm #13 komacho
    Referenced post #12 by TERDFERGUSON
    It'll be hard to recreate the magic that was 1.6, but if Valve can put the investment of time and money into their new game, who knows what could happen in the future. For the sake of... Counterstrike, I hope that it gets even bigger.Read More
    #12 I really don't think it SHOULD be that difficult at all. If the cspromod team had the capital, chances are we'd have a 1.6 clone already. Valve has a blueprint for success, but pass the ball to some shitty company.

    That's like saying cz can be bigger than cs. The only reason it's going to be larger initially is because its a new, it's 15 dollars, and everyone who hasn't found out the beta is absolutely terrible are still excited to try it out.

    Last modified on 8/7/2012 at 5:01 pm
     / · 8.7.12 at 5:27pm #14 sophos
    Quit talking about beta being terrible, its fucking beta.




    What if people completely rejected CS when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected SC when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected WC3 when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected AoS/DOTA when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected Quake when it was created because it's beta sucked?



    These games didn't come out of the gates the way they are now. (awesome/amazing/balanced etc)

    CS:GO has potential.

    It has been 12 years... it is time to go 1.6...

    It has been 6-7 years of failure... it is time to go CSS.
     / · 8.7.12 at 6:40pm #15 Rich
    Referenced post #14 by sophos
    Quit talking about beta being terrible, its fucking beta.




    What if people completely rejected CS when it was created because it's beta sucked?

    ... /> What if people completely rejected SC when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected WC3 when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected AoS/DOTA when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected Quake when it was created because it's beta sucked?



    These games didn't come out of the gates the way they are now. (awesome/amazing/balanced etc)

    CS:GO has potential.

    It has been 12 years... it is time to go 1.6...

    It has been 6-7 years of failure... it is time to go CSS.
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    #14
    is this your first beta?
    the first ten minutes of trying almost any game are enough to decide if you will play it or not
     / · 8.7.12 at 6:41pm #16 ntruder
    Just play the game. Arguing on a public board is just gonna make our community look retarded.

    One of the big reasons major tournaments/sponsors ignore CS is because of our community.
     / · 8.7.12 at 6:43pm #17 SJB
    Referenced post #16 by ntruder
    Just play the game. Arguing on a public board is just gonna make our community look retarded.

    One of the big reasons major tournaments/sponsors ignore CS is because of our community.
    #16 they ignore us because the CS developers are crack smokers
     / · 8.7.12 at 6:44pm #18 Rich
    Referenced post #16 by ntruder
    Just play the game. Arguing on a public board is just gonna make our community look retarded.

    One of the big reasons major tournaments/sponsors ignore CS is because of our community.
    #16
    wut LOL
     / · 8.7.12 at 7:18pm #19 heat
    cs beta sucked until beta 5.0. that was sickest build and after that it got better and better
     / · 8.7.12 at 7:30pm #20 sophos
    Referenced post #15 by Rich
    #14
    is this your first beta?
    the first ten minutes of trying almost any game are enough to decide if you will play it or not
    #15 Uh no, far from it.


    But I can tell it is yours.


    First 10 minutes of a beta = your choice in games. Then why do you play any game?
     / · 8.7.12 at 8:06pm #21 ROFL
    the future question ...

    = dumb....
     / · 8.7.12 at 9:44pm #22 Beef
    CS:GO just can't hold my attention. I open the beta and within 5 minutes I find myself closing it
     / · 8.7.12 at 11:09pm #23 rodney
    Referenced post #22 by Beef
    CS:GO just can't hold my attention. I open the beta and within 5 minutes I find myself closing it
    #22
    thats probably because you blow dick at video games and you try to spray at every person in this game like source. Doesn't work buddy
     / · 8.8.12 at 5:19am #24 heheto
    Referenced post #14 by sophos
    Quit talking about beta being terrible, its fucking beta.




    What if people completely rejected CS when it was created because it's beta sucked?

    ... /> What if people completely rejected SC when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected WC3 when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected AoS/DOTA when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected Quake when it was created because it's beta sucked?



    These games didn't come out of the gates the way they are now. (awesome/amazing/balanced etc)

    CS:GO has potential.

    It has been 12 years... it is time to go 1.6...

    It has been 6-7 years of failure... it is time to go CSS.
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    #14 cs in its early beta years was actually good, get some knowledge before you spew out useless arguments
     / · 8.8.12 at 5:57am #25 Hipposaver
    clearly Illuminati
     / · 8.8.12 at 3:24pm #26 MONSTRO
    Hopefully this game is good, but nothing will ever beat the days of when 1.6 dominated PC games and events.
     / · 8.8.12 at 3:58pm #27 sophos
    Referenced post #24 by heheto
    #14 cs in its early beta years was actually good, get some knowledge before you spew out useless arguments
    #24 No, it was not, what was it... 5.0? Wanted to make me throw my monitor out the window.


    and good thing you can only name CS and not the other HUGE games.
     / · 8.8.12 at 4:07pm #28 Markane
    CS:GO has a lot of changes that need to be made and that is expected while still in BETA. The issue I have with the game is that it doesn't feel smooth while I play. There just seems to be a lot of issue that I'm noticing and to have this game UNIT the 1.6 and source community......it's not, in fact most 1.6 plays swear against it.

    I'd love to see this game take off and become something huge, but i just feel as though its been half ass made, and not enough of both games exist in the new product.
     / · 8.8.12 at 7:14pm #29 NigwalkeR
    those charts are full of shit. no way in hell only 120 people voted NO to seeing CS:GO overtake source and 1.6
     / · 8.8.12 at 7:56pm #30 Westerman
    Referenced post #29 by NigwalkeR
    those charts are full of shit. no way in hell only 120 people voted NO to seeing CS:GO overtake source and 1.6
    #29 The data wasn't altered whatsoever - the charts are correct.
     / · 8.8.12 at 8:57pm #31 strreamix
    Referenced post #6 by sophos
    The only thing I hate about CS:GO is the inability to wall.



    Otherwise, I think its a good game and will overthrow.


    This is like DOTA vs DOTA 2.
    #6

    Like DotA vs DotA 2?

    Don't speak on this topic again. Your comparison shows you're a complete moron and your CS stats show that you've been playing for a year at most.

    DotA 2 is an exact replica of DotA; they revamped DotA the correct way. There was nothing wrong with it, so they changed nothing.

    CS:GO should have been CS 1.6 with updated graphics; that would have brought the Counter-Strike back to the top of esports competition. But they didn't, Valve failed and made CS:S 2.
     / · 8.8.12 at 8:59pm #32 strreamix
    Referenced post #29 by NigwalkeR
    those charts are full of shit. no way in hell only 120 people voted NO to seeing CS:GO overtake source and 1.6
    #29

    Most of the CS 1.6 players don't even participate in these surveys because we just don't give a shit about CS:GO. I know I didn't participate in it. If they make a survey about what gameplay changes should be made I'd be glad to participate.
     / · 8.8.12 at 9:42pm #33 StormBorne
    CS:GO is and will continue to be a big fail. This game isn't counter-strike and Valve are just using the name to make more sales. Also Valve are using their huge influence to push onto big tournaments to drop 1.6 and present CS:GO as the main game. It's all Valve's influence at the moment. The community won't support it though. CS:GO is for retards. It's a game for CoD/BF-ers.

    There are only two paths for counter-strike at the moment for some development - CSP or if ID Software and Carmack decide to make a true Counter-Strike sequel. But we all know that Carmack is all about Quake so...
     / · 8.8.12 at 9:45pm #34 sophos
    Referenced post #31 by strreamix
    #6

    Like DotA vs DotA 2?

    Don't speak on this topic again. Your comparison shows you're a complete moron and your CS stats show that you've been playing for a... year at most.

    DotA 2 is an exact replica of DotA; they revamped DotA the correct way. There was nothing wrong with it, so they changed nothing.

    CS:GO should have been CS 1.6 with updated graphics; that would have brought the Counter-Strike back to the top of esports competition. But they didn't, Valve failed and made CS:S 2.
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    #31 I have been around this game and community longer than you have been jacking off. I have been on and off of ESEA since 2005, playing since 2001.

    I just signed up here again after stopping back in Nov/Dec. Who gives a fuck about stats. Someones stats doesn't define if their argument is valid or is not valid.



    DOTA diehards are just as retarded and stubborn as 1.6 diehards.

    There are plenty of people in the DOTA community that refuse to switch due to the most minuscule retarded shit. Such as attack animations, pathing, the look of the map, the seemingly slower play speed etc.


    Lastly, the fact that you attempt to bring up stats and drop a knowledge bomb about how long I have been playing, shows your low intellect, lack of an ability to form a proper argument and absolute stupidity.

    If you would have taken a look at the little URL when you clicked my name to check my stats, you would see that I joined ESEA before you. Before client existed.

    You 179564

    Me 116753

    I have been far above and beyond what you will ever reach in this video game as well. (among other games and life) The amount of shits I give about it is now down to... I am bored, lets get ESEA for a month, play a few CS pugs. That is it.

    I do it to support the gaming community, Kane and Torbull.


    Now this is where you find my 10th steamID and say how long it is. PSSSSST, some of us enjoy cheating in pubs for fun.

    It takes a big man to not reply, it takes an even bigger man to apologize for ignorance, arrogance and stupidity. (as well as being wrong)

    But this is the internet and you are always right, no matter what. So I know you will reply trying to bash me or argue against me, but fact is, I wont reply to you. I just wanted to set you straight.

    Step off.

    Last modified on 8/8/2012 at 9:48 pm
     / · 8.8.12 at 11:52pm #35 strreamix
    Referenced post #34 by sophos
    #31 I have been around this game and community longer than you have been jacking off. I have been on and off of ESEA since 2005, playing since 2001.

    I just signed up here again after... stopping back in Nov/Dec. Who gives a fuck about stats. Someones stats doesn't define if their argument is valid or is not valid.



    DOTA diehards are just as retarded and stubborn as 1.6 diehards.

    There are plenty of people in the DOTA community that refuse to switch due to the most minuscule retarded shit. Such as attack animations, pathing, the look of the map, the seemingly slower play speed etc.


    Lastly, the fact that you attempt to bring up stats and drop a knowledge bomb about how long I have been playing, shows your low intellect, lack of an ability to form a proper argument and absolute stupidity.

    If you would have taken a look at the little URL when you clicked my name to check my stats, you would see that I joined ESEA before you. Before client existed.

    You 179564

    Me 116753

    I have been far above and beyond what you will ever reach in this video game as well. (among other games and life) The amount of shits I give about it is now down to... I am bored, lets get ESEA for a month, play a few CS pugs. That is it.

    I do it to support the gaming community, Kane and Torbull.


    Now this is where you find my 10th steamID and say how long it is. PSSSSST, some of us enjoy cheating in pubs for fun.

    It takes a big man to not reply, it takes an even bigger man to apologize for ignorance, arrogance and stupidity. (as well as being wrong)

    But this is the internet and you are always right, no matter what. So I know you will reply trying to bash me or argue against me, but fact is, I wont reply to you. I just wanted to set you straight.

    Step off.
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    #34

    Not reading your reply because I could care less.

    You said DotA vs DotA 2 is like CS 1.6 vs CS:GO... you are therefore retarded.

    edit: okay I read a little, you must be beyond me in video games and life; that is why you are afraid to post your ugly ass picture. keep it real man and get off my dick with your idiotic statements that have no logic behind them.

    p.s. you didnt set shit straight, anyone who read that u said dota vs dota 2 is like cs 1.6 vs. cs:go already knows you have zero say in this topic and your knowledge of these games is severely hindered.

    edit2: fake name, fake picture, fake gender... you must have great self esteem man.

    Last modified on 8/8/2012 at 11:57 pm
     / · 8.9.12 at 12:58am #36 heheto
    Referenced post #27 by sophos
    #24 No, it was not, what was it... 5.0? Wanted to make me throw my monitor out the window.


    and good thing you can only name CS and not the other HUGE games.
    #27 this man is uneducated or a troll, if you are a troll props to you teach these other wannabes
     / · 8.9.12 at 1:56am #37 strreamix
    Referenced post #36 by heheto
    #27 this man is uneducated or a troll, if you are a troll props to you teach these other wannabes
    #36

    he's just uneducated.
     / · 8.9.12 at 5:56pm #38 heatwave_
    people suck at the game and they do not want to admit it to themselves r0fl
     / · 8.9.12 at 8:09pm #39 shado
    here is my question everyone keeps saying 1.6 players hate it why do you all hate it so much?

    graphics?
    you cant spam through a foot of concrete?
    the granades dont act like an over inflated football?
    the models are bigger?

    if you ask me you guys are just being to picky its the fucking 21st century valve wants to make a game that will appeal to millions of people and keeping the old 1.6 physics and graphics isnt the way to do it.

    stop living in the past and fucking get a better computer and stop being a bunch of close minded fucks and give it a fucking chance they gave 1.6 what they could which in a 10 year old game isnt very much.

    so grow the fuck up or honestly just stop playing cs its because of kids like you that source never took off and its gonna be because of close minded fucks like you that csgo doesnt take off and be as good as 1.6 in its prime.
     / · 8.9.12 at 8:17pm #40 komacho
    Referenced post #39 by shado
    here is my question everyone keeps saying 1.6 players hate it why do you all hate it so much?

    graphics?
    you cant spam through a foot of concrete?
    the granades dont act like... an over inflated football?
    the models are bigger?

    if you ask me you guys are just being to picky its the fucking 21st century valve wants to make a game that will appeal to millions of people and keeping the old 1.6 physics and graphics isnt the way to do it.

    stop living in the past and fucking get a better computer and stop being a bunch of close minded fucks and give it a fucking chance they gave 1.6 what they could which in a 10 year old game isnt very much.

    so grow the fuck up or honestly just stop playing cs its because of kids like you that source never took off and its gonna be because of close minded fucks like you that csgo doesnt take off and be as good as 1.6 in its prime.
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    #39 -10/10
     / · 8.9.12 at 9:52pm #41 ROFL
    Referenced post #39 by shado
    here is my question everyone keeps saying 1.6 players hate it why do you all hate it so much?

    graphics?
    you cant spam through a foot of concrete?
    the granades dont act like... an over inflated football?
    the models are bigger?

    if you ask me you guys are just being to picky its the fucking 21st century valve wants to make a game that will appeal to millions of people and keeping the old 1.6 physics and graphics isnt the way to do it.

    stop living in the past and fucking get a better computer and stop being a bunch of close minded fucks and give it a fucking chance they gave 1.6 what they could which in a 10 year old game isnt very much.

    so grow the fuck up or honestly just stop playing cs its because of kids like you that source never took off and its gonna be because of close minded fucks like you that csgo doesnt take off and be as good as 1.6 in its prime.
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    #39 win

    Referenced post #40 by komacho
    #39 -10/10
    #40 mad about number 39 pointzzzz


    its like dota / dota 2
    cs 1.6 and go
     / · 8.10.12 at 4:25pm #43 hamtaro
    Referenced post #14 by sophos
    Quit talking about beta being terrible, its fucking beta.




    What if people completely rejected CS when it was created because it's beta sucked?

    ... /> What if people completely rejected SC when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected WC3 when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected AoS/DOTA when it was created because it's beta sucked?


    What if people completely rejected Quake when it was created because it's beta sucked?



    These games didn't come out of the gates the way they are now. (awesome/amazing/balanced etc)

    CS:GO has potential.

    It has been 12 years... it is time to go 1.6...

    It has been 6-7 years of failure... it is time to go CSS.
    Read More
    #14

    1.6 will always be played because it has become the goldeneye 64 of online PC FPS games. it is the pacman of FPS shooters. it is a true classic. would you ever stop playing SNES mario world just because theres a mario world on a newer console? of course not.

    1.6 is a very raw, skill-based FPS. It is amazing to see how bad these new generation source players are when they try to 5v5 in 1.6. This is also a big reason a lot of kids/noobs play CoD (any platform) : the game feels too random & childish to play competitively. However, it is still a great game (just not for money-based competition).

    All versions of Counter-Strike from beta 1.0 - 1.3, 1.5 & 1.6 are beautiful versions of counter-strike. to be saved on your for generations to come. As far as source, it is not Counter-Strike. It is a loosely based adaptation with flawed hitboxes / heavily cartoonish graphics.

    CS:go will obviously have to incorporate spam and proper hitboxes to rival the gameplay of 1.6
     / · 8.10.12 at 4:35pm #44 hamtaro
    I pre-ordered GO yesterday; hoping for the best.
     / · 8.10.12 at 4:37pm #45 hamtaro
    1.6, GTA4 & Test Drive Unlimited 2 in the mean time.
     / · 8.10.12 at 4:45pm #46 shado
    Referenced post #43 by hamtaro
    #14

    1.6 will always be played because it has become the goldeneye 64 of online PC FPS games. it is the pacman of FPS shooters. it is a true classic. would you ever stop playing SNES... mario world just because theres a mario world on a newer console? of course not.

    1.6 is a very raw, skill-based FPS. It is amazing to see how bad these new generation source players are when they try to 5v5 in 1.6. This is also a big reason a lot of kids/noobs play CoD (any platform) : the game feels too random & childish to play competitively. However, it is still a great game (just not for money-based competition).

    All versions of Counter-Strike from beta 1.0 - 1.3, 1.5 & 1.6 are beautiful versions of counter-strike. to be saved on your for generations to come. As far as source, it is not Counter-Strike. It is a loosely based adaptation with flawed hitboxes / heavily cartoonish graphics.

    CS:go will obviously have to incorporate spam and proper hitboxes to rival the gameplay of 1.6
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    #43 cs go has plenty of spam that is for sure. Im not saying people should stop playing 1.6 i just see alot of people saying that its shit mostly from 1.6 players.

    As far as hit boxes go i havent had any problem with them in go like other people said its just not as smooth as either source or 1.6 so its harder to hit your shots takes more skill and patientce.

    The graphics of go/cod/bf3 all of them they are the future of the new generation of games no more square heads and football granades.

    Ive stated many points but here is my opnion on csgo. It could still use some work imo. the smoothness as others have said leaves something to be desired. Im not a huge fan of how much room the guns take up on the screen could be a little less, and how fast the recoil takes affect and the penalties you get i feel are a little to much but not completely redic i think that overall csgo is a decent game and has plenty of potential i will be buying it and switching over to it more than likely in s13.
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