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    Getting to Know Team Curse

    B "Few" S on Thu, 11/08/2012 6:00PM


    Curse came into the scene after receiving a direct Invite to the inaugural season of CS:GO Invite in the ESEA League. Many players were upset at the notion that a former Call of Duty team with multiple backgrounds could even remotely compete with the top players form Counter-Strike 1.6 and Counter-Strike: Source. They proved everyone wrong.

    The team started out the season 8-0, earning the best starting record of any current playoff team. The second seed, Area51, would be right behind them the whole time, fighting back and forth to secure the #1 seed.

    The uniqueness of the team is what set them apart. Their work ethic proved strong and their willingness to learn seemed uncapped. A team who had never set foot together on de_dust2 were thrown into their hardest challenge, but prevailed together.

    ESEA News had the chance to sit down with Jeff "emong" Anderson to talk about the teams background, their current success and what it was like transitioning to Counter-Strike: Global Offensive from Call of Duty and other games.


    First off, please give everyone who might not know why you are a short introduction on yourself and your gaming history.
    My name is Jeff “emong” Anderson and I’ve been playing Counter-Strike for 2 months. I have played a bunch of various games in the past competitively and just recently moved to CS.

      Emong talking to others at PAX
    • AVA - 1st place IESF 2009 Qualifiers (All expense paid trip to Korea and an iPod)
    • AVA - 1st place 10k Tourney ($5k for 1st)
    • AVA - 1st place IESF 2011 Qualifiers (All expense paid trip to Korea + $600 each)
    • AVA - 3rd place IESF 2011 ($4k for 3rd)
    • Brink - 1st place Quakecon Intel Championship 2011 ($3750 for 1st + GTX 560's)
    • Call of Duty 4 - Nerv 1 Champions ($3600 for 1st)

    You guys as a group come from multiple different game backgrounds, including Call of Duty. How did a COD team get interested in CS:GO?
    The one thing many people don’t know is that we really weren't restricted to Call of Duty. We always had dipped into pretty much every game that wasn't CS for competition. Our mindset about CS at the time was that we were so far behind in years that it would be really rough to get really really good at CS. When it came to CS:GO we looked at it as an opportunity to insert ourselves into the CS community. We planned on playing open and kind of seeing where we would get but was asked ot play the Invite season of CS:GO. That kind of gave us a lot more incentive to want to constantly play the game and be good at it as we didn't want to waste the spot and go 0-16.

    How did you guys come together as a team? It seems that every time you guys are seen that you are friends inside and outside of the game. Does that give you an advantage?
    Truthfully we came together as a team by random. We have all at one point played with each other in the past but the team was basically formed off of who got beta keys randomly. I think being friends helps a lot. Chemistry in my opinion is just as huge as individual skill and if you have chemistry you can pretty much be successful in any game. If you’re constantly playing with people who whine and complain all the time and act like they know all, it doesn't become fun at all. So I think it may give us a slight advantage over some teams who don’t get along that much and just play to play.

    Team Photo in Seattle
    In the past there have not been as many big events for COD unless you are playing on the console, was it a game you played for fun, or is it just as competitive as Counter-Strike?
    The early days of Call of Duty 4 were actually pretty big. It certainly wasn't CS standards but the amount of teams at the beginning of the game was more than any COD game had seen. The LANs were also constant, especially in Europe. So there was a lot to do. You even saw teams like Evil Geniuses and Pandemic in the early parts of it, as well as ours. The problem with the game was that the developers completely abandoned the idea of patching post game. They decided that it would be better to release a game every year than to constantly update the PC side of the game so after a while the game just died off and there became a mod war in COD where there was a new mod every day.

    While Counter-Strike is similar to Call of Duty in some sense, it is very unique in how it’s played. How have you guys been able to adjust? What types of skill sets transferred over and which ones have you had to “re-learn”?
    The real only true skill sets that transferred over was our ability to adjust and our aim. Everything else we had to start from scratch. The counter strafe concept was an absolute new thing to us. For the first week of the game I literally didn't even know what a counter strafe was and would just slide around like a monkey missing all my shots or look at my damage seeing 26 and 1. We had to get used to new movement, the fact that I can’t just run and gun all the time and get kills without being penalized. There was a lot to learn. You have to imagine that we have been playing other games besides CS for just as long as people have been playing it. The smallest things that people think are easy were hard for us at times and still at times cause us issues. Even the most insane things like throwing a grenade took us forever to master because it’s so different in other games.

    When you first were invited to join ESEA did you think you’d be able to compete early on, or did you feel like you would be at a disadvantage?
    When we were first invited to ESEA Invite we were pretty happy. The one thing that instantly was said on mumble was that if we take this spot we better not waste it. We did not want to come into the league and just completely tarnish our reputation and go 0-16. Plus we knew there were a bunch of other deserving teams that didn't get the invite. We were certainly at a disadvantage going in considering we had only played the game together as a team for about 5 days. Even till this day we are a massive disadvantage and we never take a win for granted. We make sure that we constantly improve, we never just settle for a win because we know we can’t afford to like other teams.

    Michael3d
    How did you guys prepare for matches in COD and how does that translate into Counter-Strike? Is it similar or do you see your team utilizing a different process in order to prepare?
    In COD the only we got better was by bulk scrimming. Bulk scrimming is essentially playing just about anyone and not being picky about who you play. In CS we do the same thing but for different reasons. We play in bulk purely to learn the ins and outs of the game and to completely get rid of our bad habits. Sometimes people get angry at us for scrimming lesser teams but they don’t really understand how much we actually learn from it. We may think some random strat seems good but then we will play a sub par team and it will get shutdown and immediately we know what is wrong. That is one of the main reasons you see our team scrim just about anyone.

    If a new player who had previously played COD wanted to switch to CS:GO, what advice would you give them in order for them to have the most success?
    The biggest advice I could give anyone coming from COD or another game is to practice, practice, and practice. For me personally I go into a DM every day and do what I call the daily 300. I will essentially get 300 kills with the AK and 300 kills with the m4. When I first came into CS:GO you can ask my teammates, people I played against I was about as useful as a decoy grenade. Just by practicing in a DM I was able to completely turn my game play around truthfully for most new players you’re not going to be instantly good, it doesn't happen over time. But as you can see it isn't impossible to become good.

    Since you do have such a wide array of games behind all of you guys, what do you think makes Counter-Strike so unique and different from games like COD and other free-to-play shooters on the market today?
    Counter-Strike just screams competition. I think that is what really separates it from every other game. The game not only has the pub aspect of it, jump maps, surf maps, etc but it has a feel to that is like no other. In COD and some of the free to play games we had played it always felt kind of pubby and really wasn't meant to be played competitively. It had to be fixed up to the point where the game was stripped down so much that it was really hard to introduce new competitive players into the scene. People didn't want to change from what their used to. In CS I can go into a server with a bunch of random people and play an 8v8 pub and if I go into ESEA server in a 5v5 scrim it is almost every similar.

    You guys started the season off with 8 straight victories. Many were shocked when they saw this, what do you guys think helped make you so successful early on?
    I felt that we put in a lot more time than every other team. We certainly scrimmed more than any of the teams and that kind of gave us a minor advantage. I’m sure at first teams looked at us and thought instantly we were a free win, so there may have been that underestimation factor too. Overall though I think it was our teamwork that carried us through the early part of the season. We didn’t have the best of shots than so we had to make up for it with teamwork and the natural chemistry we have playing with each other.

    Right now you guys are in first place for the ESEA-League and only have one loss on record. How does it feel to be one of the best teams in North America heading into the LAN Finals?
    It feels good to be in the position we are at currently but there certainly are a bunch of teams who are also fighting for that top spot. If you look at the current top 6 for invite this season they are filled with great teams who could beat each other at any point. I know this seems like the politically correct answer but it’s truthfully how we feel.

    You recently had your first CS:GO LAN at the ESWC NA Finals, but failed to qualify for the Grand Finals after losing to Area51. What did you learn from that event and how has it effected your preparation for the ESEA LAN Finals?
    Skadoodle and emong
    The ESWC LAN was a huge wake up call for us in discovering how many bad habits we had. Our money management was beyond awful. We literally would have to double save or triple save sometimes and spent almost half the rounds the whole tournament with pistols, sometimes after we won 2 rounds in a row. It was a huge mess; we couldn't even get Skadoodle the AWP. We clearly didn't know what the walk key was. Since the LAN we've worked even harder than we did prior. We try and fix up everything we do wrong and we have a completely different outlook on the game. We hope that come the next LAN we can apply everything we learned and have a better overall result.

    You guys have embraced streaming to help introduce yourself to the community. You stream all of your matches and often answer questions from the community and interact with them on a personal level. Many would say this is what Counter-Strike has been missing the past few years. Have you guys always been community oriented?
    Truthfully in the past we were never this community oriented. We really just got kind of sick of waiting on other people to do things so we decided to take the initiative and be that team that constantly streams and interacts with their viewers. We absolutely love streaming and we enjoy answering questions and making people laugh and have a good time. The overall experience is great and we wouldn't do it if we hated it. The one problem with streaming in CS though is that you need a good computer or it can take a huge toll on your game play. We sometimes suffer from streaming but it isn't to the point where it’s detrimental and causes us to lose rounds. One thing people don’t know is that we aren't partnered with twitch. We don’t get any revenue from people viewing our streams, we literally just stream for people to have a good time and for us to give back to the community.

    Any shoutouts?!
    Would like to give a shutout to Curse and Naznoz from Nexus gaming. Make sure to follow our own3d pages at own3d.tv/emong - own3d.tv/michael3d - own3d.tv/juv3nile - own3d.tv/skadoodle
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     / · 11.8.12 at 6:30pm #1 -PZeROS-
    enough CoD articles
     / · 11.8.12 at 6:35pm #2 slam
    This seems to be one of the more serious teams in the global offensive scene. They practice hard, and they seem like a solid group of guys. Michael3D being one of my favorites.
     / · 11.8.12 at 6:57pm #3 RETiREDMiX
    300 to each gun wow lol

    i wish i was that dedicated
     / · 11.8.12 at 6:58pm #4 d0c^-^
    Hell yeah! Go team curse!
     / · 11.8.12 at 7:09pm #5 MrRayza
    Damn I get bored after 50 with each gun.
     / · 11.8.12 at 7:16pm #6 adeptzz
    gotta be that dedicated when you're new to the cs scene remix you been here awhile unlike them
     / · 11.8.12 at 7:16pm #7 RETiREDMiX
    Referenced post #6 by adeptzz
    gotta be that dedicated when you're new to the cs scene remix :( you been here awhile unlike them
    #6 ive never been in a dm to 75 kills with any gun, that's why my aim stinks. i just play smart to make up for it
     / · 11.8.12 at 7:21pm #8 Megaman
    I honestly can't DM for more than 20 minutes without getting miserably bored
     / · 11.8.12 at 7:25pm #9 waxxt_
    I like team Curse.
    Good interview.

    Will scrim against you boys again =]
     / · 11.8.12 at 7:27pm #10 HeartBreaker
    Awesome article. Seem like genuine guys who work hard to get results. I've become a fan.
     / · 11.8.12 at 7:38pm #11 iii
    cool read.
     / · 11.8.12 at 7:46pm #12 dioko
    I think they have shown incredible dedication in the early stages of the game. But I think 1.6/Source players will start to catch up with them in the skill gap, as the 1.6/source players haven't made a huge effort to adjust to the game because they've been playing for so long.

    Either way, you can't argue that their performance in invite hasn't been dominate. They are a good team and I hope they can stay away from more drama long term. They should be a staple in the upper echelon for a long time!

    Last modified on 11/8/2012 at 7:49 pm
     / · 11.8.12 at 8:30pm #13 focus^
    Good read It's great to see teams like HMO/Curse coming from out of nowhere. Just shows more gamers that it is possible to hop into Counter-Strike and become great.
     / · 11.8.12 at 8:39pm #14 weeja
    really like this team every encounter I've had in game they were friendly and I admire their work ethic.
     / · 11.8.12 at 9:19pm #16 JonnYtightLIPS
    Referenced post #13 by focus^
    Good read :) It's great to see teams like HMO/Curse coming from out of nowhere. Just shows more gamers that it is possible to hop into Counter-Strike and become great.
    #13 this is not a true cs game. this game is more cod related then any cs game. im not saying they are bad because they truly are good at csgo but its because of their cod skills. its sad that this game has the counter strike name in it
     / · 11.8.12 at 9:37pm #17 RETiREDMiX
    Referenced post #16 by JonnYtightLIPS
    #13 this is not a true cs game. this game is more cod related then any cs game. im not saying they are bad because they truly are good at csgo but its because of their cod skills. its sad that this... game has the counter strike name in itRead More
    #16 are you dumb? yes you are dumb.
     / · 11.8.12 at 10:12pm #18 D-WHiTE
    surprised no one has commented on the picture and a look a certain person is giving another person
     / · 11.8.12 at 10:56pm #19 focus^
    Referenced post #16 by JonnYtightLIPS
    #13 this is not a true cs game. this game is more cod related then any cs game. im not saying they are bad because they truly are good at csgo but its because of their cod skills. its sad that this... game has the counter strike name in itRead More
    #16 Refer to
    Referenced post #17 by RETiREDMiX
    #16 are you dumb? yes you are dumb.
    #17
     / · 11.9.12 at 12:15am #20 rlxthegreat
    Referenced post #17 by RETiREDMiX
    #16 are you dumb? yes you are dumb.
    #17

    a comment of yours that I agree with for once haha.
     / · 11.9.12 at 12:47am #21 klown
    Looks like I got something nerdy to read while I fly out to Cincinnati tomorrow
     / · 11.9.12 at 1:03am #22 LeX
    Referenced post #17 by RETiREDMiX
    #16 are you dumb? yes you are dumb.
    #17

    I could kiss you
     / · 11.9.12 at 3:39am #23 Edge-
    Hopefully these guys bring Curse home a championship since Team curse for LoL can't do it. Seems like a great group of guys, best of luck to them.
     / · 11.9.12 at 4:10am #24 sterling
    mfw this article https://d1fj4sro0cm5nu.cloudfront.net/gl...


    jk good read
     / · 11.9.12 at 4:16am #25 flashstep-
    Referenced post #16 by JonnYtightLIPS
    #13 this is not a true cs game. this game is more cod related then any cs game. im not saying they are bad because they truly are good at csgo but its because of their cod skills. its sad that this... game has the counter strike name in itRead More
    #16

    Its sad the name has counter strike on it?

    Never -k'd someone to date, that changed today.
     / · 11.9.12 at 4:35am #26 Matt
    Referenced post #7 by RETiREDMiX
    #6 ive never been in a dm to 75 kills with any gun, that's why my aim stinks. i just play smart to make up for it
    #7

    At least you're honest about it. Having good aim is only part of it, I'd take a player with brains and so-so aim over someone with amazing aim/retard strength.

    People don't like you but you've got all the right principles which is why your team has done well this season, even without the "all star" rosters you usually play with. Klusky/Plankie have never really been house hold names or on decent teams and you helped them shine and I'd bet money they are both 100x the players they were then when they started playing under your wing.

    ----


    Back to HMO, they all seem like cool guys and the one time we scrimmed them they were very cordial. They have the drive to improve and win and their hard work has payed off, kind of a shocked to see them enter play offs as the 1st seed. Congrats guys, and keep up the good work.

    I'm also they glad they silenced all the 1.6 retards who blew up the forums claiming it was a travesty/outrage they got an invite spot and that they'd be dead by week 3.

    Any 1.6 player I've encountered who hasn't played in invite seem to think they are gods gift to the world because they play 1.6 and most of them don't even have a handle on the basic fundamentals of CS, be it 1.6/CSS or GO. I can't tell you how many times I've been called or a "shitty source player' or told that "main in source is like open in 1.6". Seems like most of them are a bunch of dumb hicks, though I'm sure there are exceptions.

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     / · 11.9.12 at 4:36am #27 ForsakeN1g
    nice read. I like Curse :]
     / · 11.9.12 at 4:39am #28 RETiREDMiX
    Referenced post #26 by Matt
    #7

    At least you're honest about it. Having good aim is only part of it, I'd take a player with brains and so-so aim over someone with amazing aim/retard strength.

    ... People don't like you but you've got all the right principles which is why your team has done well this season, even without the "all star" rosters you usually play with. Klusky/Plankie have never really been house hold names or on decent teams and you helped them shine and I'd bet money they are both 100x the players they were then when they started playing under your wing.

    ----


    Back to HMO, they all seem like cool guys and the one time we scrimmed them they were very cordial. They have the drive to improve and win and their hard work has payed off, kind of a shocked to see them enter play offs as the 1st seed. Congrats guys, and keep up the good work.

    I'm also they glad they silenced all the 1.6 retards who blew up the forums claiming it was a travesty/outrage they got an invite spot and that they'd be dead by week 3.

    Any 1.6 player I've encountered who hasn't played in invite seem to think they are gods gift to the world because they play 1.6 and most of them don't even have a handle on the basic fundamentals of CS, be it 1.6/CSS or GO. I can't tell you how many times I've been called or a "shitty source player' or told that "main in source is like open in 1.6". Seems like most of them are a bunch of dumb hicks, though I'm sure there are exceptions.
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    #26 thanks
     / · 11.9.12 at 5:53am #29 LeX
    Referenced post #27 by ForsakeN1g
    nice read. I like Curse :]
    #27

    You're nice.

    I like you.
     / · 11.9.12 at 5:59am #30 LARRY
    Hi!

    Just wondering, who is the guy in the white undershirt in the article above? I kinda asked him to take a picture of me and my GF at PAX without asking who he was.

    Last modified on 11/9/2012 at 5:59 am
     / · 11.9.12 at 6:04am #31 Few
    Referenced post #30 by LARRY
    Hi!

    Just wondering, who is the guy in the white undershirt in the article above? I kinda asked him to take a picture of me and my GF at PAX without asking who he was.
    #30

    i think you are talking about freakazoid
     / · 11.9.12 at 6:10am #32 -Ret
    daily 300? 300+300=600

    its the daily 600 you liar
     / · 11.9.12 at 12:33pm #33 emong
    Thanks for all the kind comments. I certainly don't do the "daily 300" anymore, I had to stop, it was killing me. I'm kind of in the same boat as everyone else now, I mainly just scrim and occasionally load up the DM to have some guy run around with a speed hack knifing me.

    I also made the point in my answers that we had the luxury of playing a lot more than most teams and now you're seeing that gap become less and less. Teams are catching up and it's on us to improve as a team, can't keep doing the same things over and over again. So there certainly has been some struggling too, it isn't all perfect.
     / · 11.9.12 at 1:45pm #34 clay_
    Referenced post #33 by emong
    Thanks for all the kind comments. I certainly don't do the "daily 300" anymore, I had to stop, it was killing me. I'm kind of in the same boat as everyone else now, I mainly just... scrim and occasionally load up the DM to have some guy run around with a speed hack knifing me.

    I also made the point in my answers that we had the luxury of playing a lot more than most teams and now you're seeing that gap become less and less. Teams are catching up and it's on us to improve as a team, can't keep doing the same things over and over again. So there certainly has been some struggling too, it isn't all perfect.
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    #33
    I'm honestly about to start doing the daily 300, but 150/150. I need to seriously need to start working on my aim.

    Great article though. You guys seem like a dedicated team and I'm excited to see how S13 plays out.
     / · 11.9.12 at 2:14pm #35 baR-
    I enjoy the hell out of this article. Curse has been my favorite team to watch all season long, and I'm glad you guys put out an informative article from their perspectives.

    Good job, and like others said - the daily 300 is something I'll be looking into as well.
     / · 11.9.12 at 3:05pm #36 simply_noam
    this team is cool
     / · 11.9.12 at 5:57pm #37 ALiSoNBrIEFAN92
    Referenced post #32 by -Ret
    daily 300? 300+300=600

    its the daily 600 you liar
    #32
    This
    It's not like they are going to win invite anyway LOL/
     / · 11.9.12 at 6:52pm #38 johnny5-
    Referenced post #33 by emong
    Thanks for all the kind comments. I certainly don't do the "daily 300" anymore, I had to stop, it was killing me. I'm kind of in the same boat as everyone else now, I mainly just... scrim and occasionally load up the DM to have some guy run around with a speed hack knifing me.

    I also made the point in my answers that we had the luxury of playing a lot more than most teams and now you're seeing that gap become less and less. Teams are catching up and it's on us to improve as a team, can't keep doing the same things over and over again. So there certainly has been some struggling too, it isn't all perfect.
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    #33

    congrats on the pickup to curse jeff, you guys deserve it.
     / · 11.9.12 at 10:05pm #39 BoonER^WWPW
    Referenced post #25 by flashstep-
    #16

    Its sad the name has counter strike on it?

    Never -k'd someone to date, that changed today.
    #25
    THE GREAT CP IS OUT OF RETIREMENT?
     / · 11.10.12 at 6:34am #40 focus^
    I used to do about 75~100 kills on the AK and the M4. Was pretty easy to do and there was no burn out.
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